will say this, this was my 2nd uniform purchased after beginning my own TKD journey. quickly becoming my favorite and go to uniform. out of the bag they are still very stiff feeling. and they need to be washed and worn often, even all this time later you can still feel the quality and still feels somewhat stiff. have worn this both for class time in the Dojang, and for kyorugi sparring, even Poomsae, wouldn't hesitate to buy another one.